Just to Add one of the most respected people in SEO industry have also written an article about this : http://www.seobook.com/topseos-com-r...rating-service

I would be interested if you explained this indepth even more. So you are saying seo's that have dominated search results are charging others for their positions within search engines?

LOL no i am talking about a Website called topseos.com which rates seo companies and the positions are not based on performance but they are actually paid for.

WorldImpulse. Well noted. Thanks for letting us know. Some companies there showing their turnover to millions of dolloars. It's true. by ripping off peoples.

I agree ranking for SEO doesn't nessisarily mean that you are a good SEO company, you might be terrible when it comes to customer service or take huge profit margins just because you can. It doesn't mean a damn thing even if that does sound slightly counter intuitive.

gah meant to say, I agree but even ranking in google for seo..... stupd post wont edit keeps timing out

It must be very difficult to know who is good and who is not?

is paying to get to the top of a list not part of seo, you pay they seo you to the top of this list. You can then offer the same service and offer the top spot in other sectors using the same method.

You either have to be very good at seo or pay someone else to do it for you. Same end result?

I think it wouldn't be good to generalize that Top SEOs are scammers. Some might be but some might not. Judging them based on a few experiences would not be enough to say that the ones on top are just a scam. SOME top SEOs might not be that really good if they rank well at the TOP but they still are undeniably RANKED at the top. SEO cannot be successful without the marketing involved so even BIG companies outsource to others and that would most likely be the reason why they are on top and STILL at the top.

lol., i should have thought so

Stupid post! Do you know what you are talking?

pearlgurl I believe they do they are talking about (although I debate your grasp on the english language which is a good excuse for you not understanding the post) they're talking about a directoy site called topseos.com and that is what they are saying is a scam.

Originally Posted by whitearrowseo

pearlgurl I believe they do they are talking about (although I debate your grasp on the english language which is a good excuse for you not understanding the post) they're talking about a directoy site called topseos.com and that is what they are saying is a scam.

Well, you must learn to understand sarcasm

how is randomly calling somebodies post stupid sarcasm? anyway this is not something I have the time to be argueing about, if you didn't mean it fair enough. Although it seems a little odd to bother saying something like that on a forum without any indication that it is sarcastic.

...and what does this prove again? Money rules the world!

Really no proof of it actually taking place...the "proof" I heard from a friend of a friend does not cut it....I am sure it is taking place but without concrete proof it is just accusations. That is why I was hoping the author would get into more details.

Now I think there are most sofisticate Company that you have listed

http://www.seoconsultants.com/topseos/complaints
http://www.seobook.com/topseos-com-r...rating-service
Good enough proof ?

This is the success black hat seo